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MoltenOak's avatar

In any case, I'm sorry you feel this way about the jobs available to you. Let me try to be helpful:

1. I don't know how many of these jobs you've tried, but I reckon (blindly) that your expectation of what some of these jobs have in store for you is wrong: they don't have (all) the features you fear and/or working one won't feel as bad as you fear. Try around.

2. There may be more jobs available to you than you imagine. Try to find them. Maybe they're in a different field of work, or in a different place (quarter/city/county/country). Maybe you have marketable skills you're unaware of (possibly as a self-employed worker). Explore some possibilities.

3. If there really are no jobs available to you which you find acceptable, try to change your situation. Find the most easily reachable acceptable job and acquire the knowledge & skills you need to start working there.

In addition to the above: Try to actively alter your perception such that more jobs become more acceptable. Therapy or talking to an emotionally intelligent friend may help with that.

A) To a degree, we *can* influence how much something bothers us, e.g. by choosing what to focus on.

B) If it's primarily an intense emotion of disgust and it's intensity which are holding you back: Disgust is not a generally reliable indicator of anything truthful or fundamental. It's also not necessarily a stable emotion. It can change, for instance by getting used to something, or by mentally reframing a situation. (As an example for the latter, a surgeon may have to mentally separate the patient as a person from its body, which they will physically damage at first.)

If you've actually done your best to try and improve your situation via something like the above and nothing has worked (including therapy and/or medication), then you probably will have to live on financial assistance. That too can be a life worth living.

But I reckon you haven't given it all you can yet. That's okay too. Just don't then believe the illusion that the problem is fundamentally unsolvable.

Good luck.

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Daniel B. Miller's avatar

I think you are missing their point. They don't want to put some sueprhuman effort into finding non-sex work they don't totally loathe. They just want us to not hypocritically treat sex work as just like any other work, then switch up the argument when the subject is not-sex-work.

I think they have a point. Our prudish anarchic attitudes towards sex make it almost impossible to be 100% intellectually consistent on this subject.

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MoltenOak's avatar

I'll start by noting that I don't have a settled position on the general question of prostitution.

Also, the anti-prostitution position you present is obviously a strawman, or else you're nutpicking the <1% who actually think this. (Feel free to prove me wrong here, eg by pointing to several popular anti-prostitutionists saying what you claim they're saying.) I think strawmanning is a bad thing to do.

Now, I'll try to summarize your core argument as I understood it.

1. It's very bad when people are forced to do sex work, but really don't want to. (It's basically rape.)

2. There is no (relevant) difference between sex work and any other job.

3. You really don't want to do any job (you might realistically get).

4. Therefore, it's just as bad to force you to do any job as it would be to force you to do sex work.

Putting the conclusion in simple terms: Forcing you to work a job is basically like forcing you to get raped.

Is this really what you're saying? Please do correct me if I'm wrong.

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Lorec's avatar

Congratulations, you've just quasi-independently invented Marxism!

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Repeal The Common Era's avatar

I'm not a Marxist. Marxists think the majority of the working class want to be liberated. I am under no such delusion, which is fortunate, because no Marxist or Marxist-adjacent solution for how to maintain an industrial economy while also liberating the working class actually works. I believe in everyone living the life to which they are suited, which for a significant proportion of the population *does* mean menial drudgery.

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Lorec's avatar

So they don't get in your way, or so they're happy? There's never been a coalition of people claiming, or acting like, menial drudgery made them happy, and I remain bewildered why you keep implying such a group exists.

A surprising amount of Marxism is just "hey, look, here's this problem, alienation from labor", not "if you do X this will solve it", which is in fact the correct way to do philosophy.

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Repeal The Common Era's avatar

They do exist. Listen to The Idiot by Stan Rogers. Peasant mindset perfectly encapsulated in music. Anyways, I have yet to see anyone except possibly you be like "I'm a Marxist in that I think his criticisms of capitalism were right, but a better way isn't actually possible at our tech level", so labeling myself as such would just be counterproductive.

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Lorec's avatar

And Elon, upon reading that the Singularity was near, founded OpenAI. Doesn't mean MIRI was wrong.

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